1 00:00:03,103 --> 00:00:05,205 The story you are about to see 2 00:00:05,238 --> 00:00:07,674 was inspired by actual events. 3 00:00:07,707 --> 00:00:09,142 The names have been changed 4 00:00:09,175 --> 00:00:10,377 to protect the innocent. 5 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:16,316 {\an8}* 6 00:00:16,349 --> 00:00:19,085 It was Monday, it was warm in Los Angles. 7 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:20,453 My partner and I were working the day shift 8 00:00:20,487 --> 00:00:22,389 out of robbery homicide. 9 00:00:22,422 --> 00:00:24,424 The call came at 11:15. 10 00:00:24,457 --> 00:00:27,293 Abandoned car, Santa Monica Canyon. 11 00:00:27,327 --> 00:00:29,429 Female decomposed body. 12 00:00:29,462 --> 00:00:31,664 Possible gunshot to the head. 13 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:33,466 A fire department brush clearance team 14 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:35,435 spotted the car. 15 00:00:35,468 --> 00:00:38,138 Santa Monica Canyon was on the western edge of the city, 16 00:00:38,171 --> 00:00:40,507 quiet, isolated. 17 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:43,109 That was one of the strange things about LA. 18 00:00:43,143 --> 00:00:44,344 Patches of barren wilderness 19 00:00:44,377 --> 00:00:46,446 hidden in a vast metropolis. 20 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,481 People came out here to forget the city. 21 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:51,151 Sometimes, if they were unlucky, 22 00:00:51,184 --> 00:00:53,586 the city forgot them. 23 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:55,188 My name's Friday. 24 00:00:55,221 --> 00:00:56,122 I'm a cop. 25 00:00:56,156 --> 00:00:58,191 Seven Series Beemer went over the edge. 26 00:00:58,224 --> 00:00:58,758 Could have sat there forever, 27 00:00:58,792 --> 00:00:59,659 no one would have known. 28 00:00:59,693 --> 00:01:00,560 You on this one? 29 00:01:00,593 --> 00:01:02,595 Captain knew I was on call in Santa Monica, 30 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:03,563 asked if I could swing by. 31 00:01:03,596 --> 00:01:05,632 Any idea how long the car was down there? 32 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:08,335 Tag says April '97, we're running the plates. 33 00:01:08,368 --> 00:01:11,171 Six years, anything left of the victim? 34 00:01:11,204 --> 00:01:13,306 Depends on your definition of anything. 35 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:14,474 Mind if I stay in on this? 36 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:16,176 Well, if it is what it looks like 37 00:01:16,209 --> 00:01:17,711 everyone will be in it. 38 00:01:17,744 --> 00:01:19,346 Detective, take a look. 39 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:20,613 Adult female. 40 00:01:20,647 --> 00:01:22,916 Freshly mummified from the elements. 41 00:01:22,949 --> 00:01:25,352 The skull is shattered here. 42 00:01:25,385 --> 00:01:27,320 It could have happened when she drove off the road. 43 00:01:27,354 --> 00:01:29,356 Looks more like a small caliber gunshot, 44 00:01:29,389 --> 00:01:30,357 that's why I called it in. 45 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:31,358 Anyone touch this car? 46 00:01:31,391 --> 00:01:32,625 No, not on the inside. 47 00:01:32,659 --> 00:01:34,160 I don't think she drove off the road. 48 00:01:34,194 --> 00:01:35,695 You don't drive off a cliff in neutral. 49 00:01:35,729 --> 00:01:37,330 Maybe a robbery? 50 00:01:37,364 --> 00:01:39,165 I don't see any jewelry or a handbag. 51 00:01:39,199 --> 00:01:40,633 Maybe she picked up someone she shouldn't have. 52 00:01:40,667 --> 00:01:42,168 I don't think you drive a BMW 53 00:01:42,202 --> 00:01:44,337 and pick up hitchhikers. 54 00:01:44,371 --> 00:01:46,239 Well, whoever did this, 55 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:48,375 why don't they take the car? 56 00:01:48,408 --> 00:01:49,409 Looks like she had a son, 57 00:01:49,442 --> 00:01:51,745 maybe 15, 16. 58 00:01:51,778 --> 00:01:54,948 Okay, auto status says car was registered 59 00:01:54,981 --> 00:01:57,217 to Christopher and Carolyn Meeker. 60 00:01:57,250 --> 00:02:00,587 {\an8}* 61 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:02,322 Six years. 62 00:02:02,355 --> 00:02:03,289 You couldn't help wondering 63 00:02:03,323 --> 00:02:06,259 what had happened in this house since then. 64 00:02:06,292 --> 00:02:09,195 A child becoming an adult without his mother, 65 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:11,765 a husband mourning the loss of his wife. 66 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:13,600 Time had stopped for Carolyn Meeker. 67 00:02:13,633 --> 00:02:15,635 For those who loved her, 68 00:02:15,669 --> 00:02:17,370 life had gone on. 69 00:02:17,404 --> 00:02:18,605 How had they coped? 70 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:20,707 Who had they been then? 71 00:02:20,740 --> 00:02:23,209 And who would they be now? 72 00:02:23,243 --> 00:02:26,446 I kept hoping the phone would ring. 73 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:27,747 She'd say she was sorry, 74 00:02:27,781 --> 00:02:30,550 that she was coming back. 75 00:02:35,689 --> 00:02:37,323 Are you sure it's Carolyn? 76 00:02:37,357 --> 00:02:39,259 We'll know better after the autopsy. 77 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:49,336 I uh... 78 00:02:49,369 --> 00:02:52,272 I'd thought she'd abandoned us. 79 00:02:52,305 --> 00:02:53,673 Why did you think that? 80 00:02:53,707 --> 00:02:55,575 Too many business trips. 81 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:58,311 I actually... 82 00:02:58,345 --> 00:03:02,582 I said it to my son. 83 00:03:02,615 --> 00:03:05,251 I thought she was having an affair 84 00:03:05,285 --> 00:03:07,620 and that she ran off with someone. 85 00:03:07,654 --> 00:03:09,322 When was the last time you saw her? 86 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:10,790 It was dinner the night before. 87 00:03:10,824 --> 00:03:13,626 I left early the next morning to go the airport. 88 00:03:13,660 --> 00:03:17,330 I had this consulting business. 89 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:20,767 My son called 90 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,770 and said that she didn't come home. 91 00:03:23,803 --> 00:03:27,273 So I called her office and her friend. 92 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:31,811 I called the police. 93 00:03:31,845 --> 00:03:35,348 Other than the idea that she was having an affair 94 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:36,716 was there anything else? 95 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:39,052 Didn't make any sense. 96 00:03:39,085 --> 00:03:42,288 She had everything. 97 00:03:42,322 --> 00:03:45,425 She had a great job, she loved it, ConSec. 98 00:03:45,458 --> 00:03:48,461 They're defense contractors. 99 00:03:48,495 --> 00:03:49,429 I went on TV, 100 00:03:49,462 --> 00:03:52,732 I asked everyone if they'd seen her, nothing. 101 00:03:55,502 --> 00:03:57,737 People say, 102 00:03:57,771 --> 00:04:02,509 "Move on, let it go. 103 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,844 You'll recover from this". 104 00:04:04,878 --> 00:04:06,880 You know what? 105 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:09,482 You never do. 106 00:04:09,516 --> 00:04:13,853 {\an8}* 107 00:04:13,887 --> 00:04:16,423 Christopher Meeker was right. 108 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:18,358 We say we recover from the worst, 109 00:04:18,391 --> 00:04:20,794 the truth is, people don't. 110 00:04:20,827 --> 00:04:22,395 We could offer one thing, 111 00:04:22,429 --> 00:04:24,531 a version of finality. 112 00:04:24,564 --> 00:04:27,534 Who took this woman from the people who loved her? 113 00:04:27,567 --> 00:04:29,502 What would the evidence tell us? 114 00:04:29,536 --> 00:04:31,938 Single shot fired into the right frontal lobe. 115 00:04:31,971 --> 00:04:32,939 Stomach contents? 116 00:04:32,972 --> 00:04:34,541 The insects took care of that. 117 00:04:34,574 --> 00:04:36,543 But the other organs in a remarkable 118 00:04:36,576 --> 00:04:37,811 state of preservation. 119 00:04:37,844 --> 00:04:38,778 That's her uterus, 120 00:04:38,812 --> 00:04:40,447 completely mummified. 121 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,582 Appeared slightly enlarged so I did some sections. 122 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:43,850 I expected endometriosis, 123 00:04:43,883 --> 00:04:44,884 maybe cancer, 124 00:04:44,918 --> 00:04:49,723 but that is clearly an embryo. 125 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:50,957 Eight weeks at most. 126 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:52,559 Carolyn Meeker was pregnant. 127 00:04:52,592 --> 00:05:02,602 {\an8}* 128 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:22,622 {\an8}* 129 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:42,375 {\an8}* 130 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,981 {\an8}I've ever seen. 131 00:05:48,014 --> 00:05:50,917 {\an8}Detective on the case was Louisa Reiner. 132 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:52,786 {\an8}Retired, spend more time with her kids. 133 00:05:52,819 --> 00:05:54,054 {\an8}She'll be here in ten minutes. 134 00:05:54,087 --> 00:05:55,488 {\an8}From the looks of it she was good. 135 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:58,458 {\an8}Over 51 interviews. 136 00:05:58,491 --> 00:05:59,893 {\an8}Anything on the weapon? 137 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:01,428 {\an8}...22 Browning automatic. 138 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:03,063 {\an8}Start at the beginning of that, call everyone. 139 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:04,264 {\an8}What are they gonna remember after six years? 140 00:06:04,297 --> 00:06:07,734 {\an8}Anything they've thought about her since she disappeared. 141 00:06:07,767 --> 00:06:09,102 {\an8}Six years, a month hasn't gone by 142 00:06:09,135 --> 00:06:11,871 {\an8}I haven't thought about Carolyn Meeker. 143 00:06:11,905 --> 00:06:13,807 {\an8}She was about my age. 144 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:14,941 {\an8}Sixteen year old son, 145 00:06:14,974 --> 00:06:16,109 {\an8}my boy was 16. 146 00:06:16,142 --> 00:06:18,511 {\an8}She was very successful, big bucks, 147 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:21,781 {\an8}but found the time to volunteer for a nursing home, 148 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:24,017 {\an8}just one of those weird things that sticks in your head. 149 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:26,486 {\an8}Husband had some vague idea about an affair. 150 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:28,221 {\an8}Her friends said she was distracted, 151 00:06:28,254 --> 00:06:30,123 {\an8}something on her mind. 152 00:06:30,156 --> 00:06:32,092 {\an8}She came home late a couple of times too often. 153 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:34,794 {\an8}Says here that she had cashed in corporate stock options 154 00:06:34,828 --> 00:06:36,830 {\an8}just a week before she disappeared. 155 00:06:36,863 --> 00:06:38,932 {\an8}Yeah, it was a defense contractor, 156 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:40,533 {\an8}350 grand. 157 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:41,468 {\an8}Well, that's motive. 158 00:06:41,501 --> 00:06:42,235 {\an8}Her husband? 159 00:06:42,268 --> 00:06:43,470 {\an8}No, no. 160 00:06:43,503 --> 00:06:45,038 {\an8}First of all he was out of town. 161 00:06:45,071 --> 00:06:47,574 {\an8}Everyone said they were happy. 162 00:06:47,607 --> 00:06:49,876 {\an8}And uh, on top of it all she was making a fortune, 163 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:50,810 {\an8}twice what he did. 164 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:53,580 {\an8}So you never thought of any suspects, nobody? 165 00:06:53,613 --> 00:06:55,882 {\an8}I thought about the son, Zachary. 166 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:58,585 {\an8}He had no alibi, truancy, 167 00:06:58,618 --> 00:07:00,220 {\an8}ran with a bad crowd. 168 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:01,988 {\an8}The father never mentioned that. 169 00:07:02,022 --> 00:07:04,991 {\an8}Kid ended up doing juvy time. 170 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:07,193 {\an8}Him along with a couple other kids. 171 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:10,063 {\an8}Liquor store, armed robbery. 172 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:11,798 {\an8}Just tagging along, 173 00:07:11,831 --> 00:07:13,199 {\an8}those guys weren't even my friends. 174 00:07:13,233 --> 00:07:15,135 {\an8}Why go through with the robbery then? 175 00:07:15,168 --> 00:07:17,871 {\an8}Just being a punk. 176 00:07:17,904 --> 00:07:19,973 {\an8}Acting out, I guess. 177 00:07:20,006 --> 00:07:22,142 {\an8}We found that in the car with your mother. 178 00:07:25,979 --> 00:07:27,280 {\an8}Six years now I uh, 179 00:07:27,313 --> 00:07:30,283 {\an8}thought she bailed on me. 180 00:07:30,316 --> 00:07:35,255 {\an8}It's like I can't let myself believe that she's um... 181 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:38,625 {\an8}She's dead. 182 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:40,293 {\an8}Do you, 183 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:41,194 {\an8}do you know who killed her? 184 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:43,863 {\an8}We have a lot of unanswered questions. 185 00:07:43,897 --> 00:07:46,800 {\an8}Does that include, you know, 186 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:48,301 {\an8}someone she might have been seeing? 187 00:07:48,335 --> 00:07:49,536 {\an8}Well, why would you say that? 188 00:07:49,569 --> 00:07:54,007 {\an8}Blew off school one day, went down to Melrose, bought some CDs 189 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,309 {\an8}and I saw her in a restaurant with this guy. 190 00:07:56,343 --> 00:07:58,144 {\an8}My mom looked pretty upset 191 00:07:58,178 --> 00:08:01,114 {\an8}and this guy reached over and took her hand. 192 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:02,849 {\an8}And he just kept holding it 193 00:08:02,882 --> 00:08:04,050 {\an8}and my mom was letting him. 194 00:08:04,084 --> 00:08:06,052 {\an8}And that's the last time you saw them? 195 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:07,554 {\an8}I know they were together another time, 196 00:08:07,587 --> 00:08:09,289 {\an8}um, a business trip. 197 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:13,593 {\an8}I called her hotel and a guy answered. 198 00:08:13,626 --> 00:08:14,627 {\an8}I'm not really sure it was him, 199 00:08:14,661 --> 00:08:18,164 {\an8}but who else could it have been. 200 00:08:18,198 --> 00:08:20,633 {\an8}You didn't mention this to the police six years ago? 201 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:23,203 {\an8}I was 16 then. 202 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:27,073 {\an8}I didn't know what to think. 203 00:08:27,107 --> 00:08:30,176 {\an8}I was mad. 204 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:33,880 {\an8}I figured she doesn't wanna be found, 205 00:08:33,913 --> 00:08:35,215 {\an8}I'm not gonna look. 206 00:08:35,248 --> 00:08:39,352 {\an8}Do you remember the date that you called? 207 00:08:39,386 --> 00:08:42,689 {\an8}How could I forget that one? 208 00:08:42,722 --> 00:08:47,127 {\an8}It was the uh, night before we robbed the liquor store. 209 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,194 {\an8}You think that was honest? 210 00:08:48,228 --> 00:08:49,963 {\an8}Sure, this was his mother. 211 00:08:49,996 --> 00:08:51,631 {\an8}Feels guilty for being angry at her. 212 00:08:51,664 --> 00:08:52,332 {\an8}Look what he tells us. 213 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:53,967 {\an8}I get angry, I act out. 214 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,168 {\an8}He calls a hotel. 215 00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:57,704 {\an8}A man who's not his father answers the phone, then what? 216 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:58,638 {\an8}He robs the store. 217 00:08:58,672 --> 00:08:59,673 {\an8}You think he lost control? 218 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:01,274 {\an8}Maybe, he's got no alibi, 219 00:09:01,307 --> 00:09:02,909 {\an8}thinks his mother's having an affair. 220 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:04,144 Are you honestly telling me you think that kid 221 00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:05,645 murdered his mother? 222 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,646 When I add it all up, no, 223 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:07,380 but something's wrong. 224 00:09:07,414 --> 00:09:08,148 What? 225 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:09,282 I don't know. 226 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:12,118 But he gave us the date of his mother's hotel stay. 227 00:09:12,152 --> 00:09:16,222 Let's call ConSec, see if they have her travel records. 228 00:09:16,256 --> 00:09:20,126 We were horrified by the news about Carolyn. 229 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,728 Please. 230 00:09:21,761 --> 00:09:24,698 You worked with her at that time. 231 00:09:24,731 --> 00:09:29,102 I brought Carolyn into the company, she was my protégé. 232 00:09:29,135 --> 00:09:31,905 Truth is if she hadn't disappeared 233 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:34,341 she'd have ended up CEO and not me. 234 00:09:34,374 --> 00:09:36,009 She must have been very smart. 235 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:37,377 They don't come much smarter. 236 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:40,146 She turned our guidance system division around 237 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:41,181 in six months. 238 00:09:41,214 --> 00:09:43,016 Looking back is there anything you've thought 239 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:44,951 that might help explain her disappearance? 240 00:09:44,984 --> 00:09:47,053 Wasn't it a robbery or something? 241 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:48,054 What can I tell you? 242 00:09:48,088 --> 00:09:50,090 Well, for example, she exercised stock options 243 00:09:50,123 --> 00:09:51,324 at the same time. 244 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:53,159 Yeah, the police asked about that, 245 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:54,294 I don't know what to say, 246 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:56,062 she was cautious about money. 247 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:58,264 Did other executives cash in their options? 248 00:09:58,298 --> 00:10:00,233 I'm sorry, why would that have anything to do 249 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:02,969 with Carolyn's disappearance? 250 00:10:03,003 --> 00:10:06,006 Mr. Hindle, it's a simple question. 251 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:08,108 Look, it was a long time ago, I... 252 00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:10,310 This was a smart guy, Martin Hindle. 253 00:10:10,343 --> 00:10:12,445 He knew all about stock options. 254 00:10:12,479 --> 00:10:13,313 What they were worth, 255 00:10:13,346 --> 00:10:14,314 when you sold, 256 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:16,016 when you didn't 257 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:19,686 Six years ago Carolyn Meeker sold hers, he knew why. 258 00:10:19,719 --> 00:10:21,187 He didn't wanna tell us. 259 00:10:21,221 --> 00:10:23,423 Thank you. 260 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:25,392 Carolyn's former assistant 261 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:29,062 has the travel records that you wanted. 262 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:31,097 She was terrific. 263 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:33,199 She treated me like a real person. 264 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:35,001 Did you know her outside of work? 265 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:35,902 Ah, not really. 266 00:10:35,935 --> 00:10:38,004 She was awfully busy most of the time. 267 00:10:38,038 --> 00:10:39,973 Before she disappeared did you notice any change 268 00:10:40,006 --> 00:10:43,476 in her behavior? 269 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:45,378 Well, I didn't think about it til later. 270 00:10:45,412 --> 00:10:48,381 She was... 271 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:50,083 Yeah, I don't know what it was. 272 00:10:50,116 --> 00:10:51,251 For years I made all the calls 273 00:10:51,284 --> 00:10:53,286 and then suddenly she started closing her office door 274 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:54,821 and making her own calls. 275 00:10:54,854 --> 00:10:57,090 Possibly to a man who wasn't her husband? 276 00:10:57,123 --> 00:10:59,459 No. 277 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:01,828 Not Carolyn, no, not, 278 00:11:01,861 --> 00:11:03,096 absolutely not, no. 279 00:11:03,129 --> 00:11:07,033 She would've never cheated on Chris. 280 00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:09,736 If you had seen Carolyn with her family, you'd know. 281 00:11:09,769 --> 00:11:11,471 She wasn't that kind of a person. 282 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,407 Ah, Carolyn's travel, 283 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:17,344 September through October 1997. 284 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:19,412 Carolyn Meeker had some secrets. 285 00:11:19,446 --> 00:11:20,380 You mean an affair. 286 00:11:20,413 --> 00:11:22,849 Maybe, or maybe something entirely different. 287 00:11:22,882 --> 00:11:24,384 Hindle was holding something back. 288 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:26,286 Why did she cash in those options? 289 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:27,487 That's something we need to follow up. 290 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,123 Before that I want you to see where they are on the gun. 291 00:11:30,156 --> 00:11:31,124 They've dug some bullet fragments 292 00:11:31,157 --> 00:11:34,127 out of Carolyn Meeker's skull, sent them over. 293 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,796 Your shooter used a hollow point .22. 294 00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:39,299 Man, when you said "fragments" you really meant it. 295 00:11:39,332 --> 00:11:41,434 What about the shell casings they found in the BMW? 296 00:11:41,468 --> 00:11:42,869 Here it is. 297 00:11:42,902 --> 00:11:45,338 This you can get a match on. 298 00:11:45,372 --> 00:11:49,109 Pin strike and extraction marks. 299 00:11:49,142 --> 00:11:50,844 Well, there's only one problem. 300 00:11:50,877 --> 00:11:51,845 What makes us think 301 00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:53,279 we're gonna find a gun 302 00:11:53,313 --> 00:11:57,083 used in a six year old murder? 303 00:11:57,117 --> 00:11:59,486 The guy you just spoke with, uh, Martin Hindle? 304 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:01,855 According to this he said the same exact thing 305 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:04,357 about Carolyn Meeker when he was interviewed six years ago. 306 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:05,892 Run him, see if anything turns up, 307 00:12:05,925 --> 00:12:09,229 sexual harassment charges, anything. 308 00:12:09,262 --> 00:12:12,265 Carolyn Meeker was at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco 309 00:12:12,298 --> 00:12:14,100 three weeks before she disappeared. 310 00:12:14,134 --> 00:12:15,135 Just like the son told us, 311 00:12:15,168 --> 00:12:16,169 around the time of his arrest. 312 00:12:16,202 --> 00:12:17,037 All right, get the names 313 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:18,171 of all the male guests at the same time, 314 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:20,907 look for anyone who was alone and had an LA address. 315 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:23,176 Carolyn Meeker's son, the armed robbery? 316 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:24,577 I checked the juvenile record. 317 00:12:24,611 --> 00:12:26,913 One of the kids fired a gun to scare the clerk. 318 00:12:26,946 --> 00:12:27,414 What kind of gun? 319 00:12:27,447 --> 00:12:28,348 A .22 Ruger. 320 00:12:28,381 --> 00:12:30,183 Carolyn Meeker was shot with a Browning. 321 00:12:30,216 --> 00:12:32,285 Ballistics said they weren't sure. 322 00:12:32,318 --> 00:12:33,253 Check with evidence, 323 00:12:33,286 --> 00:12:37,424 see if they have the gun from the robbery. 324 00:12:37,457 --> 00:12:39,225 It didn't seem likely that Zack Meeker 325 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:41,194 was involved in his mother's death. 326 00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:42,595 But we follow every lead. 327 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:44,297 Was it possible? 328 00:12:44,330 --> 00:12:45,532 Could we match the gun 329 00:12:45,565 --> 00:12:47,267 used by a friend of Zack Meeker's 330 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:48,935 to the gun that killed his mother? 331 00:12:48,968 --> 00:12:50,270 I know, we thought Carolyn Meeker 332 00:12:50,303 --> 00:12:52,305 was shot with a Browning. 333 00:12:52,339 --> 00:12:53,406 Could it have been a Ruger? 334 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,241 Browning, Ruger, Beretta, maybe. 335 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:56,276 Hard to tell from fragments. 336 00:12:56,309 --> 00:12:59,479 Either way, you don't get anything from this. 337 00:12:59,512 --> 00:13:01,514 Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. 338 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:03,383 Okay, there, there's a mark on the lens. 339 00:13:03,416 --> 00:13:06,353 Turn the slug from the robbery. 340 00:13:06,386 --> 00:13:07,487 That's something. 341 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,956 Yeah, something I'd never testify to. 342 00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:11,424 If the son killed his mother, 343 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:14,227 this doesn't make your case. 344 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:15,628 Zack Meeker's a dead end. 345 00:13:15,662 --> 00:13:16,629 No way to rule him out? 346 00:13:16,663 --> 00:13:18,431 No way to rule him in. 347 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:20,233 He might still be helpful. 348 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:23,269 DMV photos for men all stayed at the Fairmont 349 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:25,538 at the same time as Carolyn Meeker. 350 00:13:25,572 --> 00:13:26,439 Maybe one of them's the same guy 351 00:13:26,473 --> 00:13:28,475 Zack saw his mother with. 352 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:37,584 {\an8}* 353 00:13:37,617 --> 00:13:39,586 Oh my God. 354 00:13:39,619 --> 00:13:41,521 That's him. 355 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:42,455 That, that's the guy. 356 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:44,557 You sure? 357 00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:45,992 Yeah, he was sitting with her at the restaurant, 358 00:13:46,026 --> 00:13:47,460 I wouldn't forget that face. 359 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:49,229 Gerald Canin? 360 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:51,498 She ever mention that name before? 361 00:13:51,531 --> 00:13:53,266 No. 362 00:13:53,299 --> 00:13:55,568 But I mean, that's him, I remember him. 363 00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:56,803 He had this habit, 364 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:59,673 he was running his hands through his hair like it was thinning 365 00:13:59,706 --> 00:14:03,343 and he was feeling it or something. 366 00:14:03,376 --> 00:14:05,979 And the, the way he stared at her, I mean, 367 00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:10,016 he was always staring at her, always. 368 00:14:10,050 --> 00:14:11,284 He did remember. 369 00:14:11,317 --> 00:14:13,486 He was telling the truth. 370 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,256 It was as if we were back there right now. 371 00:14:16,289 --> 00:14:17,457 Still, I couldn't help wondering 372 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:20,193 was he remembering the right things? 373 00:14:20,226 --> 00:14:21,961 What had he forgotten? 374 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:25,565 What had the passage of six years erased? 375 00:14:25,598 --> 00:14:27,334 My mom was uh, 376 00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:31,471 was cheating on my dad, right? 377 00:14:31,504 --> 00:14:34,708 That's him. 378 00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:37,043 Did he kill her? 379 00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:40,213 {\an8}* 380 00:14:40,246 --> 00:14:43,216 Gerald Canin was in room 404 of the Fairmont 381 00:14:43,249 --> 00:14:44,517 the night Carolyn Meeker was there. 382 00:14:44,551 --> 00:14:46,019 She was in 406. 383 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:48,488 That helps if you wanna have an affair. 384 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,323 Gerald Canin, UCLA Law, 385 00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:52,726 used to work for the Public Interest Policy Counsel. 386 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:54,027 Is that government? 387 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:55,628 It's left wing consumer advocates. 388 00:14:55,662 --> 00:14:56,596 She's a corporate officer, 389 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:58,732 why is she having an affair with the enemy? 390 00:14:58,765 --> 00:15:00,467 The year Carolyn Meeker disappeared 391 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:02,535 Gerald Canin quit his job as man of the people 392 00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:04,571 and opened a patio furniture store. 393 00:15:04,604 --> 00:15:06,072 Canin, Gerald. 394 00:15:06,106 --> 00:15:08,441 Registered Smith and Wesson .38. 395 00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:09,609 What's the year of the registration? 396 00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:12,312 Uh, November '97. 397 00:15:12,345 --> 00:15:13,313 Well, I have a question. 398 00:15:13,346 --> 00:15:15,482 Are we so sure that an affair and a pregnancy 399 00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:16,416 are motives for murder? 400 00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:17,417 Here's another question. 401 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:19,753 What's a public interest lawyer doing with a gun? 402 00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:21,388 Let's ask him. 403 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:23,556 Mrs. Canin? 404 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:24,124 Yes. 405 00:15:24,157 --> 00:15:25,458 Detective Friday, LAPD, 406 00:15:25,492 --> 00:15:27,327 my partner Detective Beltran. 407 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,062 Is your husband home? 408 00:15:29,095 --> 00:15:30,397 What's this about? 409 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:35,268 Daddy, door. 410 00:15:35,301 --> 00:15:37,771 Ah, it's okay honey, go on in. 411 00:15:37,804 --> 00:15:40,106 We need to ask you some questions about Carolyn Meeker. 412 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:43,009 Yeah, mind if we do this out here? 413 00:15:45,812 --> 00:15:48,581 I saw about Carolyn on the news. 414 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,351 Maybe it'd be easier if you came downtown to talk with us. 415 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:52,485 I'm not sure I could be much help, 416 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:53,420 I only knew her briefly 417 00:15:53,453 --> 00:15:55,588 and I don't remember that much about her. 418 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:56,589 Well, maybe it would jog your memory 419 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:59,392 if we told you you were a suspect in her murder. 420 00:15:59,426 --> 00:16:03,630 {\an8}* 421 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:11,237 What my client says never goes beyond this room. 422 00:16:11,271 --> 00:16:12,472 Counselor, he can talk now 423 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:13,807 or he can talk in front of a grand jury. 424 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,808 Uh-uh. 425 00:16:14,841 --> 00:16:18,144 What he's going to say puts him at great risk. 426 00:16:18,178 --> 00:16:20,080 If he sounds paranoid he's got a right to. 427 00:16:20,113 --> 00:16:22,182 If he needs protection we'll make sure he gets it. 428 00:16:26,252 --> 00:16:29,255 In July 1997 I got a call from a woman 429 00:16:29,289 --> 00:16:31,391 who wouldn't identify herself. 430 00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:33,493 Do you know what Carolyn Meeker did at ConSec? 431 00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:34,694 Department head on her way up. 432 00:16:34,728 --> 00:16:39,399 She oversaw risk analysis on the laser guidance systems. 433 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:44,137 Their biggest client was the Defense Department. 434 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:46,272 I uh, I first met her in, 435 00:16:46,306 --> 00:16:48,141 in the garage of the Chandler. 436 00:16:48,174 --> 00:16:50,810 She was uh, 437 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:52,579 she was scared. 438 00:16:52,612 --> 00:16:54,314 She said that they were suppressing evidence 439 00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:57,150 of design flaws in their systems 440 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:59,252 and she had documents to prove the cover up. 441 00:16:59,285 --> 00:17:00,253 How did she get to you? 442 00:17:00,286 --> 00:17:01,421 She saw me on TV. 443 00:17:01,454 --> 00:17:05,258 I was loud in those days. 444 00:17:07,427 --> 00:17:10,397 She trusted me uh, told me who she was 445 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:11,598 and that she wanted to blow the whistle 446 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:13,233 and get a federal investigation. 447 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:16,369 You think ConSec is behind Carolyn Meeker's death. 448 00:17:16,403 --> 00:17:17,637 Does that surprise you? 449 00:17:17,671 --> 00:17:20,340 What surprises me is you met this women in garages in hotels 450 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:21,875 for a couple of months. 451 00:17:21,908 --> 00:17:25,845 And you're making this sound like it was all business. 452 00:17:25,879 --> 00:17:27,180 Did you have an affair? 453 00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:29,416 No, I didn't. 454 00:17:29,449 --> 00:17:33,386 She was the most courageous woman that I ever knew. 455 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:37,657 She wanted her life to make a difference. 456 00:17:37,691 --> 00:17:41,194 Why'd you buy a .38? 457 00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:42,696 She disappeared, I was scared out of my mind. 458 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:45,165 Wouldn't you be? 459 00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:47,867 Do you have anything to back this up? 460 00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:55,542 What do you think? 461 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:56,910 I think it's a stretch. 462 00:17:56,943 --> 00:17:58,511 You didn't like Carolyn Meeker's boss. 463 00:17:58,545 --> 00:17:59,679 Wanna go back and squeeze him? 464 00:17:59,713 --> 00:18:01,314 No, if there's any case to be made 465 00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:03,316 I wanna talk to a DA first. 466 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:04,317 You think Carolyn Meeker was murdered 467 00:18:04,351 --> 00:18:05,452 because she was a whistleblower? 468 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:06,686 It's a lead, what do you think? 469 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,922 I wanna hear what our science guy thinks of the documents. 470 00:18:08,955 --> 00:18:10,557 Gerald Canin sounds legit. 471 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,926 Please, Canin thought Velcro was a conspiracy. 472 00:18:12,959 --> 00:18:14,494 I have trouble with conspiracy theories, too, 473 00:18:14,527 --> 00:18:16,329 this is hard to buy. 474 00:18:16,363 --> 00:18:17,564 I read your stuff, guys. 475 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:19,165 It's scary. 476 00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:20,734 If these are real ConSec knew its guidance systems 477 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:22,235 were prone to failure. 478 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:23,336 You're saying they knew they were making 479 00:18:23,370 --> 00:18:24,604 a defective product. 480 00:18:24,637 --> 00:18:26,439 Defective and potentially dangerous. 481 00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:27,540 If that was in the "LA Times" 482 00:18:27,574 --> 00:18:30,377 company officers would start worrying about prison. 483 00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:31,211 Where do you start? 484 00:18:31,244 --> 00:18:32,345 ConSec's a big company. 485 00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:34,514 Carolyn Meeker's boss was a man named Martin Hindle. 486 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:35,615 Now CEO. 487 00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:37,350 Hindle, you sure can pick 'em. 488 00:18:37,384 --> 00:18:39,185 Talk about the height of respectability. 489 00:18:39,219 --> 00:18:41,488 White collar criminals, respectable until indicted. 490 00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:42,689 Hey, we're not talking fraud. 491 00:18:42,722 --> 00:18:45,959 We're talking murder for hire. 492 00:18:45,992 --> 00:18:47,027 I'm not convinced. 493 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:48,595 At the very least we need to know Carolyn Meeker 494 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:50,397 really was gonna blow the whistle. 495 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:51,965 If you were gonna rat out your employer 496 00:18:51,998 --> 00:18:54,467 who would you tell first? 497 00:18:54,501 --> 00:18:56,469 I knew she was having some problems at work, 498 00:18:56,503 --> 00:18:59,372 but we never talked specifics. 499 00:18:59,406 --> 00:19:00,674 We believe your wife was going to the feds 500 00:19:00,707 --> 00:19:02,942 over a cover up at ConSec. 501 00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:04,711 That's serious stuff. 502 00:19:04,744 --> 00:19:06,379 Wouldn't she have shared that with you? 503 00:19:06,413 --> 00:19:07,580 I knew she was concerned, 504 00:19:07,614 --> 00:19:10,583 something about test results? 505 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:12,385 But that was her job. 506 00:19:12,419 --> 00:19:13,787 She was more than concerned. 507 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:15,588 These were confidential documents. 508 00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:18,324 Look, even if what you say is true what would they do? 509 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:19,759 This is not the most ethical company, 510 00:19:19,793 --> 00:19:23,997 but they wouldn't resort to murder. 511 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:25,732 It didn't make sense. 512 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:29,235 Was Carolyn Meeker planning to blow the whistle or not? 513 00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:31,538 If she was wouldn't she have told her husband? 514 00:19:31,571 --> 00:19:33,540 Maybe she wouldn't have told anyone else, 515 00:19:33,573 --> 00:19:35,308 she certainly would have told him. 516 00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:37,010 Carolyn Meeker was on the brink. 517 00:19:37,043 --> 00:19:39,012 That's why Canin was so scared when she disappeared. 518 00:19:39,045 --> 00:19:41,548 The question is why didn't her husband know. 519 00:19:41,581 --> 00:19:42,749 Beltram. 520 00:19:42,782 --> 00:19:45,385 Yeah. 521 00:19:45,418 --> 00:19:46,419 Okay, thanks. 522 00:19:46,453 --> 00:19:47,587 That was the DOC. 523 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:48,755 A prisoner in Calipatria 524 00:19:48,788 --> 00:19:50,790 has some information on Carolyn Meeker. 525 00:19:50,824 --> 00:19:52,292 Wants to trade. 526 00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:54,361 Ah, they'll be coming out of the woodwork. 527 00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:56,296 What the hell, go up and see him. 528 00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:58,431 Ugh, it's 150 miles. 529 00:19:58,465 --> 00:20:00,333 Take Langler along, he's good company. 530 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,235 I know you like looking at him. 531 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:04,771 Carolyn Meeker, 532 00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:06,306 shot in the head, 533 00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:07,640 October '97. 534 00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:09,542 Keep talking. 535 00:20:09,576 --> 00:20:11,378 What do I get? 536 00:20:11,411 --> 00:20:13,580 Well, you don't get a reduced sentence. 537 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:16,316 But you can raise my comfort level. 538 00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:17,584 Transfer me to Lancaster, 539 00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:19,853 I wanna be closer to my wife. 540 00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:21,454 Gilbert Muncie. 541 00:20:21,488 --> 00:20:23,456 Thirty-five years with an armed robbery, 542 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:24,491 one strike prior, 543 00:20:24,524 --> 00:20:28,395 and manslaughter with an unidentified object. 544 00:20:28,428 --> 00:20:30,463 You all pulled the Meeker woman out of her car 545 00:20:30,497 --> 00:20:32,632 in the Santa Monica mountains, right? 546 00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:34,534 Everyone read that in the paper. 547 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:37,871 The paper said she was done with a .22. 548 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:39,739 Yeah. 549 00:20:39,773 --> 00:20:41,841 Yeah, she was shot in her Mercedes. 550 00:20:41,875 --> 00:20:44,077 Beemer. 551 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:47,380 You're on a roll. 552 00:20:47,414 --> 00:20:50,483 You do for us, we do for you. 553 00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:51,785 Well, I once was on the block 554 00:20:51,818 --> 00:20:53,853 with a man named Ancona. 555 00:20:53,887 --> 00:20:55,722 Ancona, huh? 556 00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:56,856 Got a first name? 557 00:20:56,890 --> 00:20:59,459 Jon, J-O-N, big talker. 558 00:20:59,492 --> 00:21:01,828 I must have heard this story a hundred times. 559 00:21:01,861 --> 00:21:04,397 Well, we just need to hear it once. 560 00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:07,767 He had a thing for blondes who caught his eye. 561 00:21:07,801 --> 00:21:09,502 You know, you never know who's behind you 562 00:21:09,536 --> 00:21:12,772 on line at the grocery store. 563 00:21:12,806 --> 00:21:14,874 He followed her out, he put a gun on her, 564 00:21:14,908 --> 00:21:16,443 had her drive to a nice spot, 565 00:21:16,476 --> 00:21:18,611 but when he tried to get it on, 566 00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:22,782 well, she rejected his advances. 567 00:21:22,816 --> 00:21:24,651 {\an8}* 568 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:26,386 He took it badly. 569 00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:27,854 He popped her, took her cash, 570 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:31,558 some hardware, and dumped her car down in the woods. 571 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,861 I never believe these stories. 572 00:21:34,894 --> 00:21:36,396 Any reason to believe this one? 573 00:21:36,429 --> 00:21:37,797 He knew about the .22. 574 00:21:37,831 --> 00:21:38,798 Yeah, and we didn't release that 575 00:21:38,832 --> 00:21:41,101 so he didn't hear about it on the 5:00 news. 576 00:21:41,134 --> 00:21:42,669 No, he definitely knew details. 577 00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:44,771 What do we have on the con who he says killed her? 578 00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,707 Uh, Jon Ancona, half a bad ass. 579 00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:49,743 Armed robbery, assault, rape. 580 00:21:49,776 --> 00:21:50,643 Fits the bill. 581 00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:51,878 Ancona got out of Quentin a month ago 582 00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:54,647 and until two weeks ago he was living up north in Danville. 583 00:21:54,681 --> 00:21:55,382 Where's he living now? 584 00:21:55,415 --> 00:21:55,849 He's not. 585 00:21:55,882 --> 00:21:57,017 - What? - Dead. 586 00:21:57,050 --> 00:22:00,553 Jon Ancona was shot during an armed robbery last week. 587 00:22:00,587 --> 00:22:03,556 San Jose. 588 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:04,891 It's a setup. 589 00:22:04,924 --> 00:22:06,159 Suspect conveniently dead, 590 00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:09,829 someone doesn't want us to find out who killed Carolyn Meeker. 591 00:22:09,863 --> 00:22:11,464 Get the prison visitor's log. 592 00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:13,433 Someone visited your snitch in the last 24 hours, 593 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:17,437 told him exactly what to say. 594 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:19,873 You visited your husband in Calipatria yesterday. 595 00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:21,841 I go out there whenever I can. 596 00:22:21,875 --> 00:22:22,909 He gets lonely. 597 00:22:22,942 --> 00:22:25,679 Listen, Regina, your husband told us a story um, 598 00:22:25,712 --> 00:22:27,681 now we think he was paid to tell it. 599 00:22:27,714 --> 00:22:29,149 What's that got to do with me? 600 00:22:29,182 --> 00:22:31,151 Someone gave him the information 601 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,186 he was trying to sell. 602 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:34,821 You were the only person that visited him. 603 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:35,822 I don't know what you mean. 604 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:38,158 He's probably hustling you. 605 00:22:38,191 --> 00:22:39,325 He does that. 606 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,997 So uh, how do I get one of these with food stamps, huh? 607 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,466 I work half days when I can get a sitter. 608 00:22:46,499 --> 00:22:47,701 Oh. 609 00:22:47,734 --> 00:22:51,905 So that's what, you make seven, eight bucks an hour, yeah? 610 00:22:51,938 --> 00:22:53,807 Regina, someone paid him to lie, 611 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,874 you got the money. 612 00:22:54,908 --> 00:22:56,943 Nobody paid me anything. 613 00:22:56,976 --> 00:22:57,977 Then you wouldn't mind showing us 614 00:22:58,011 --> 00:23:02,515 your most recent paystubs. 615 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:03,917 Without a warrant 616 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:08,822 I don't have to show you anything but the door. 617 00:23:08,855 --> 00:23:10,824 Well, this was fun. 618 00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:15,829 We'll stay in touch. 619 00:23:15,862 --> 00:23:17,030 She went up there to her husband 620 00:23:17,063 --> 00:23:18,498 and told him to make up a story. 621 00:23:18,531 --> 00:23:19,399 What are you people saying? 622 00:23:19,432 --> 00:23:21,201 Major corporate executives paid a convict 623 00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:22,702 to screw up your investigation? 624 00:23:22,736 --> 00:23:23,703 It's been known to happen. 625 00:23:23,737 --> 00:23:25,739 Carolyn Meeker was a threat to that company. 626 00:23:25,772 --> 00:23:27,974 Says who, some burned out left wing radical? 627 00:23:28,008 --> 00:23:30,210 Your expert liked the evidence. 628 00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:33,013 Listen, anyone ever hear of Karen Silkwood? 629 00:23:33,046 --> 00:23:34,514 Lot of people think that she was killed 630 00:23:34,547 --> 00:23:35,648 by the nuclear power industry. 631 00:23:35,682 --> 00:23:36,916 Sandy, I agree with you, 632 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:39,052 I don't think corporations are running around killing people, 633 00:23:39,085 --> 00:23:42,522 but we do need to get back there and talk to her boss. 634 00:23:42,555 --> 00:23:43,757 Sandy, they've got to confront this guy, 635 00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:44,858 see what he says. 636 00:23:44,891 --> 00:23:46,693 Then your chief gets a call from the ConSec lawyers 637 00:23:46,726 --> 00:23:47,861 and you know what they say. 638 00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:49,596 One word of this leaks to the press 639 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:52,766 and the city gets sued for 50 million. 640 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,534 My advice, be careful. 641 00:23:54,567 --> 00:23:56,870 Don't piss this guy off. 642 00:23:56,903 --> 00:23:59,039 Come on, you don't think anyone from this company 643 00:23:59,072 --> 00:24:00,774 was involved in her death. 644 00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:01,908 What would it have cost 645 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:04,544 had Carolyn Meeker gone public with those documents? 646 00:24:04,577 --> 00:24:05,945 Absolutely nothing. 647 00:24:05,979 --> 00:24:07,981 We lost that contract in '99, 648 00:24:08,014 --> 00:24:09,549 Clinton Administration, 649 00:24:09,582 --> 00:24:10,417 budget cuts. 650 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:13,253 Can you answer two direct questions? 651 00:24:13,286 --> 00:24:14,220 Ask them. 652 00:24:14,254 --> 00:24:17,257 Did you know Carolyn Meeker had the documents? 653 00:24:17,290 --> 00:24:20,593 Did you know she was going public? 654 00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:21,995 We knew. 655 00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:24,064 That probably shook things up around here. 656 00:24:24,097 --> 00:24:26,266 I'll tell you exactly what we did. 657 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:29,035 It's the way you handle these things. 658 00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:30,937 The general counsel in the company 659 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:32,972 took me to Carolyn's house. 660 00:24:33,006 --> 00:24:35,575 We told her and her husband 661 00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:38,111 that we would litigate them into the ground, 662 00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:39,579 they would be destroyed, 663 00:24:39,612 --> 00:24:41,881 they'd need expensive lawyers, 664 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:44,951 they'd spend every nickel that they had ever saved. 665 00:24:44,984 --> 00:24:47,320 When it was over, they'd be broke. 666 00:24:47,354 --> 00:24:48,955 Back up. 667 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,557 You said her husband was there. 668 00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:51,591 Chris Meeker? 669 00:24:51,624 --> 00:24:53,860 He was there, he was terrified. 670 00:24:53,893 --> 00:24:56,996 He knew precisely what his wife was doing. 671 00:24:57,030 --> 00:24:59,799 And he wasn't too happy about it. 672 00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:04,037 {\an8}* 673 00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:09,209 Carolyn had concerns. 674 00:25:09,242 --> 00:25:11,144 ConSec threatened you and your wife. 675 00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:13,179 They basically told you your lives would be destroyed. 676 00:25:13,213 --> 00:25:14,347 A meeting like that? 677 00:25:14,381 --> 00:25:17,183 That's not something you forget. 678 00:25:17,217 --> 00:25:19,019 Look. 679 00:25:19,052 --> 00:25:20,987 They're a powerful company. 680 00:25:21,021 --> 00:25:23,957 Why would I say anything about them? 681 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:25,125 They wanted to hurt me now, 682 00:25:25,158 --> 00:25:26,259 they still could. 683 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,961 He was different this time. 684 00:25:27,994 --> 00:25:29,896 His pain was gone. 685 00:25:29,929 --> 00:25:30,930 In its place, 686 00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:33,066 self assurance, confidence. 687 00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:34,668 It all sounded reasonable, 688 00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:36,136 except for one thing. 689 00:25:36,169 --> 00:25:38,204 They'd threatened him six years ago. 690 00:25:38,238 --> 00:25:40,640 And he's afraid to tell us now? 691 00:25:40,674 --> 00:25:41,941 How could it matter? 692 00:25:41,975 --> 00:25:43,276 She realized that those documents 693 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:44,678 were not gonna be enough, 694 00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,713 and so she reconsidered the whole thing. 695 00:25:46,746 --> 00:25:48,148 You're saying she changed her mind. 696 00:25:48,181 --> 00:25:50,183 No, she never committed to it in the first place. 697 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:51,284 It's like I told you. 698 00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:52,686 She thought about it 699 00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:54,621 and in the end she decided 700 00:25:54,654 --> 00:25:57,357 that it wasn't worth the risk. 701 00:25:59,693 --> 00:26:00,994 You're not buying. 702 00:26:01,027 --> 00:26:02,095 I'm on a budget, I'm not buying a story 703 00:26:02,128 --> 00:26:03,129 that changes every day. 704 00:26:03,163 --> 00:26:04,130 Well, he's evasive. 705 00:26:04,164 --> 00:26:05,632 Does that mean he had a reason to kill his wife? 706 00:26:05,665 --> 00:26:07,334 And call me a sap, 707 00:26:07,367 --> 00:26:09,336 but these two people look like they loved each other. 708 00:26:09,369 --> 00:26:11,037 At one point they did. 709 00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:12,706 Suppose she wouldn't be able to get a job. 710 00:26:12,739 --> 00:26:14,140 Suppose they were gonna be broke. 711 00:26:14,174 --> 00:26:15,175 Is that enough? 712 00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:17,344 Nothing's ever just about money. 713 00:26:17,377 --> 00:26:18,411 I don't believe he did it. 714 00:26:18,445 --> 00:26:19,412 He killed her or he had it done, 715 00:26:19,446 --> 00:26:22,148 the question is why and how do we prove it. 716 00:26:22,182 --> 00:26:25,652 We need to know a lot more about Chris Meeker. 717 00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:26,553 No doubt about it. 718 00:26:26,586 --> 00:26:29,189 Chris Meeker, he was telling the truth. 719 00:26:29,222 --> 00:26:31,758 Said he went to the papers for help looking for his wife. 720 00:26:31,791 --> 00:26:33,293 Six paragraphs on page 31, 721 00:26:33,326 --> 00:26:35,161 not exactly a desperate attempt. 722 00:26:35,195 --> 00:26:37,297 He was smart enough to do more if he wanted to. 723 00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:39,165 These diplomas, Stanford. 724 00:26:39,199 --> 00:26:41,001 Full scholarships the whole way. 725 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:42,235 Full scholarships? 726 00:26:42,268 --> 00:26:43,737 Stanford doesn't hand out any full rides 727 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:44,604 for good grades, either, 728 00:26:44,637 --> 00:26:47,040 he was some kind of all star athlete. 729 00:26:47,073 --> 00:26:48,441 Or he grew up in a lower tax bracket. 730 00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:51,244 Well, Meeker strikes me as a guy who comes from money. 731 00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:53,179 Well, guess again. 732 00:26:53,213 --> 00:26:54,381 He's from La Puente. 733 00:26:54,414 --> 00:26:56,149 Not exactly high going neighborhood. 734 00:26:56,182 --> 00:26:57,317 All right, get a subpoena. 735 00:26:57,350 --> 00:27:00,787 Get Meeker's canceled checks from July to December '97. 736 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:03,823 Get his savings and money market accounts, too. 737 00:27:03,857 --> 00:27:06,159 Feel like taking a ride? 738 00:27:06,192 --> 00:27:08,361 {\an8}* 739 00:27:08,395 --> 00:27:10,263 A trailer park. 740 00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:12,332 Meeker had started his life here. 741 00:27:12,365 --> 00:27:14,701 The kind of place you aren't proud of. 742 00:27:14,734 --> 00:27:17,203 A place you'd sooner forget. 743 00:27:17,237 --> 00:27:19,706 I was starting to understand who Christopher Meeker was. 744 00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:23,843 If Meeker was born rich his parents sure hid it well. 745 00:27:23,877 --> 00:27:27,080 Oh, this is the one. 746 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:28,348 Sir. 747 00:27:28,381 --> 00:27:30,283 Meekers still live here? 748 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:31,384 You're about four years late, 749 00:27:31,418 --> 00:27:33,386 Tom Meeker died of lung cancer. 750 00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:34,721 How long have you lived here? 751 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:36,022 Twenty years. 752 00:27:36,056 --> 00:27:38,158 Tom lived here at least twice that long. 753 00:27:38,191 --> 00:27:39,826 You ever talk to Chris? 754 00:27:39,859 --> 00:27:40,727 Chris? 755 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,829 Tom's son. 756 00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:48,201 God, he looks just like Tom. 757 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:50,136 I knew Tom all those years 758 00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:51,771 and I never knew he had a son. 759 00:27:51,805 --> 00:27:52,839 Thank you. 760 00:27:52,872 --> 00:27:55,241 You're welcome. 761 00:27:55,275 --> 00:27:57,043 Meeker walked away from all this, 762 00:27:57,077 --> 00:27:58,111 he never looked back. 763 00:27:58,144 --> 00:27:59,012 Can you blame him? 764 00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:01,114 He wanted the American dream, though. 765 00:28:01,147 --> 00:28:02,082 He had it, too. 766 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:05,285 Yeah, and he'd have done anything to keep it. 767 00:28:05,318 --> 00:28:07,320 We're ruling out an affair as motive 768 00:28:07,354 --> 00:28:09,489 and we're not thinking some corporate executives 769 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:11,091 paid for a hired hit. 770 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:12,459 We're moving off of that. 771 00:28:12,492 --> 00:28:14,761 And based on no physical evidence whatsoever 772 00:28:14,794 --> 00:28:17,063 we're going with the idea that the husband killed her. 773 00:28:17,097 --> 00:28:18,098 I grant you, 774 00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:19,799 no physical evidence, 775 00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:21,801 he's got an alibi, but he has motive. 776 00:28:21,835 --> 00:28:22,769 Oh, come on. 777 00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:23,803 Being poor as a child? 778 00:28:23,837 --> 00:28:25,305 Put yourself in his place. 779 00:28:25,338 --> 00:28:27,774 He grew up with nothing, less than nothing. 780 00:28:27,807 --> 00:28:29,476 Worked his ass off. 781 00:28:29,509 --> 00:28:31,478 Got the big car, got the big house, 782 00:28:31,511 --> 00:28:32,445 he had it made. 783 00:28:32,479 --> 00:28:34,147 Erased his childhood. 784 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:37,217 Then his wife says, "I'm taking this down on ConSec." 785 00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:38,852 Which, by the way, will cost us everything". 786 00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:40,120 So he stood to lose his money 787 00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:41,187 so he killed her. 788 00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:43,189 Deeper than money, it's about him. 789 00:28:43,223 --> 00:28:46,159 It's about who Meeker was and who he wanted to be. 790 00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:47,460 And she was gonna take it all away from him. 791 00:28:47,494 --> 00:28:48,495 You got motive, 792 00:28:48,528 --> 00:28:50,230 I got opportunity. 793 00:28:50,263 --> 00:28:51,798 A connection between Christopher Meeker 794 00:28:51,831 --> 00:28:54,300 and our snitch in Calipatria. 795 00:28:54,334 --> 00:28:56,236 Tell me your snitch grew up in La Puente. 796 00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:58,471 Not quite, but his wife did. 797 00:28:58,505 --> 00:29:00,874 Regina grew up right around the corner 798 00:29:00,907 --> 00:29:02,809 from the Royal Gardens trailer park. 799 00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:03,877 Bingo. 800 00:29:03,910 --> 00:29:04,577 Back to her. 801 00:29:04,611 --> 00:29:06,179 No, she won't budge. 802 00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:07,247 We need someone with information 803 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,348 who's willing to talk. 804 00:29:08,381 --> 00:29:09,382 We talked to everyone. 805 00:29:09,416 --> 00:29:11,317 Well, maybe not, sometimes the best information 806 00:29:11,351 --> 00:29:14,888 comes from people who don't even know they have it. 807 00:29:14,921 --> 00:29:16,523 Look, it was six years ago, I don't remember. 808 00:29:16,556 --> 00:29:17,490 Well, try to think back. 809 00:29:17,524 --> 00:29:21,161 Had anything in the relationship changed? 810 00:29:21,194 --> 00:29:22,262 Why are you asking this? 811 00:29:22,295 --> 00:29:24,164 Did they fight? 812 00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:25,365 Sure. 813 00:29:25,398 --> 00:29:26,599 Not as bad as some, though, 814 00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:28,868 I had friends whose parents used to throw things at each other. 815 00:29:28,902 --> 00:29:29,869 The day your mother went missing 816 00:29:29,903 --> 00:29:33,273 your dad was out of town. 817 00:29:33,306 --> 00:29:35,508 Yeah, Phoenix. 818 00:29:35,542 --> 00:29:36,910 What's with the questions? 819 00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:38,478 Do you remember how long that trip 820 00:29:38,511 --> 00:29:40,246 may have been planned in advance? 821 00:29:46,353 --> 00:29:48,955 I don't, I don't know whether or not it was planned. 822 00:29:48,988 --> 00:29:52,592 He told us he was gonna leave the night before. 823 00:29:54,494 --> 00:29:55,528 I'm gonna go. 824 00:29:55,562 --> 00:29:56,563 I only have a few more questions. 825 00:29:56,596 --> 00:29:57,464 Yeah, well you know what? 826 00:29:57,497 --> 00:30:00,500 I don't wanna answer them. 827 00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:02,936 The officer will drive you home. 828 00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:05,405 I'll take the bus. 829 00:30:05,438 --> 00:30:06,272 What happened? 830 00:30:06,306 --> 00:30:08,441 He knows more than he wants to know. 831 00:30:08,475 --> 00:30:10,310 Well, we went through Meeker's checks. 832 00:30:10,343 --> 00:30:11,911 Do you really think he'd hire someone to kill his wife 833 00:30:11,945 --> 00:30:13,213 and leave a paper trail? 834 00:30:13,246 --> 00:30:15,648 Checks or cash, we can find them. 835 00:30:15,682 --> 00:30:17,384 This might not mean anything, 836 00:30:17,417 --> 00:30:20,420 but six weeks before Carolyn Meeker disappeared 837 00:30:20,453 --> 00:30:22,989 $500 cash machine withdrawals every third day 838 00:30:23,023 --> 00:30:24,124 for the entire six weeks. 839 00:30:24,157 --> 00:30:26,226 Well, they could have spent it out of their pockets. 840 00:30:26,259 --> 00:30:28,261 Well, wouldn't she spot a check to someone she didn't know? 841 00:30:28,294 --> 00:30:29,529 Unless they hadn't cleared. 842 00:30:29,562 --> 00:30:30,964 Or unless he found a way of paying somebody 843 00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:32,399 without her noticing. 844 00:30:32,432 --> 00:30:34,267 {\an8}* 845 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:35,368 HB Landscaping. 846 00:30:35,402 --> 00:30:38,672 15,000 ten days before Carolyn Meeker disappeared, 847 00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:41,441 and over here another 10,000 the day after. 848 00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:42,942 With that yard? 849 00:30:42,976 --> 00:30:43,977 Big pool area? 850 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:45,211 They could have spent that easy. 851 00:30:45,245 --> 00:30:46,479 Except for the timing. 852 00:30:46,513 --> 00:30:48,214 One check right before she disappeared, 853 00:30:48,248 --> 00:30:50,016 another check right after, huh? 854 00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:51,384 HB Landscaping. 855 00:30:51,418 --> 00:30:53,453 It's not a corporation, it's a DBA. 856 00:30:53,486 --> 00:30:55,055 Pull the business license. 857 00:30:55,088 --> 00:30:58,358 If we find out who's behind HB Landscaping 858 00:30:58,391 --> 00:31:00,927 we find out who killed Carolyn Meeker. 859 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,328 HB Landscaping. 860 00:31:02,362 --> 00:31:03,496 A guy named Henry Berk. 861 00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:06,533 Mr. Berk stays busy when he's not trimming the hedges. 862 00:31:06,566 --> 00:31:08,335 Burglary, 18 months, 863 00:31:08,368 --> 00:31:10,337 armed robbery, a deuce at Chino, 864 00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:11,538 and the good part. 865 00:31:11,571 --> 00:31:12,972 Two years ago CCW, 866 00:31:13,006 --> 00:31:14,974 ...22 Browning Buckmark automatic. 867 00:31:15,008 --> 00:31:16,943 Meeker hired his gardener to kill his wife? 868 00:31:16,976 --> 00:31:17,644 Why not? 869 00:31:17,677 --> 00:31:18,645 Berk's mowing his lawn, 870 00:31:18,678 --> 00:31:19,713 he and Meeker get to talking, 871 00:31:19,746 --> 00:31:21,014 comes out Berk's done time. 872 00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:22,282 We don't have Henry Berk's gun 873 00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:23,483 so we can't match shell casings. 874 00:31:23,516 --> 00:31:24,984 We still have a picture of the.22. 875 00:31:25,018 --> 00:31:26,386 Yeah. 876 00:31:26,419 --> 00:31:27,287 But that's no good to us. 877 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:27,921 Sure it is. 878 00:31:27,954 --> 00:31:29,422 Pull Henry Berk's prints. 879 00:31:29,456 --> 00:31:30,390 Get me a picture of that gun, 880 00:31:30,423 --> 00:31:32,292 meet me at ballistics. 881 00:31:32,325 --> 00:31:33,626 This was a nice gun. 882 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:36,096 Started production in '92, I think. 883 00:31:36,129 --> 00:31:37,997 There's a new model now, they changed the barrel. 884 00:31:38,031 --> 00:31:39,499 Can you get this exact gun? 885 00:31:39,532 --> 00:31:40,633 I told you it's been scrapped. 886 00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:41,468 All right, find one, 887 00:31:41,501 --> 00:31:43,436 age it to look just like this one, 888 00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:46,072 and then check the scratches on the grip and barrel, 889 00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:48,408 try to duplicate it exactly. 890 00:31:48,441 --> 00:31:50,677 I get the feeling we're about to do something unethical. 891 00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:52,412 Unethical, no. 892 00:31:52,445 --> 00:31:54,714 Devious, maybe. 893 00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:55,749 {\an8}* 894 00:31:55,782 --> 00:31:57,083 Henry Berk? 895 00:31:57,117 --> 00:31:58,118 It's Hank. 896 00:31:58,151 --> 00:32:00,520 Only people who call me Henry are family or cops. 897 00:32:00,553 --> 00:32:03,656 Step away from the truck, please. 898 00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:05,058 Stop moving, Henry. 899 00:32:05,091 --> 00:32:06,526 What are you, some kind of limey? 900 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:07,994 Keep your hands away from your body. 901 00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:09,529 Look here man, I'm clean. 902 00:32:09,562 --> 00:32:11,398 I made all my parole meetings, all right? 903 00:32:11,431 --> 00:32:15,001 You're under arrest for the murder of Carolyn Meeker. 904 00:32:15,035 --> 00:32:15,568 Radio for backup. 905 00:32:15,602 --> 00:32:24,611 {\an8}* 906 00:32:24,644 --> 00:32:27,380 Stupid mark, I got 20 years on you. 907 00:32:27,414 --> 00:32:29,549 You're under arrest for the murder of Carolyn Meeker. 908 00:32:29,582 --> 00:32:31,451 You have the right to remain silent, 909 00:32:31,484 --> 00:32:33,119 anything you say can and will be used against you 910 00:32:33,153 --> 00:32:34,521 in a court of law. 911 00:32:34,554 --> 00:32:35,722 You have the right to an attorney. 912 00:32:35,755 --> 00:32:37,457 If you cannot afford one... 913 00:32:42,562 --> 00:32:44,397 You're a three time loser, Henry. 914 00:32:44,431 --> 00:32:47,167 I got two felonies. 915 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,568 You're about to get a third. 916 00:32:48,601 --> 00:32:53,440 Says you. 917 00:32:53,473 --> 00:32:55,575 25,000, that's pathetic. 918 00:32:55,608 --> 00:32:58,144 Killing a woman you should have asked for more. 919 00:32:58,178 --> 00:32:59,646 I remember I used to work for those Meeker people, 920 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:01,281 a long time ago. 921 00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:03,116 Put in some trees and bushes. 922 00:33:03,149 --> 00:33:04,584 And a bullet in Carolyn Meeker's skull. 923 00:33:10,156 --> 00:33:11,424 Look familiar? 924 00:33:11,458 --> 00:33:13,493 You carried without a permit. 925 00:33:13,526 --> 00:33:16,296 Cops took it away from you. 926 00:33:16,329 --> 00:33:19,332 Shell casing from a bullet they fired this morning. 927 00:33:19,366 --> 00:33:21,334 This one's from Carolyn Meeker's car. 928 00:33:29,109 --> 00:33:31,444 You see those firing pin marks, Henry? 929 00:33:31,478 --> 00:33:34,180 They're identical. 930 00:33:34,214 --> 00:33:36,349 Now this is how this goes. 931 00:33:36,383 --> 00:33:37,450 You're gonna enter a plea to a straight first, 932 00:33:37,484 --> 00:33:39,486 tell us everything or take your chances at trial, 933 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,254 but that's risky. 934 00:33:41,287 --> 00:33:44,491 Because you can wind up with a needle in your arm. 935 00:33:44,524 --> 00:33:48,094 Now this offer is good 936 00:33:48,128 --> 00:33:49,429 for ten seconds. 937 00:33:49,462 --> 00:33:56,169 {\an8}* 938 00:33:56,202 --> 00:33:59,105 Five. 939 00:33:59,139 --> 00:34:00,707 {\an8}* 940 00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:03,610 I-, I never popped anybody before. 941 00:34:03,643 --> 00:34:05,445 I mean, he even told me where to, 942 00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:09,182 where to push the car so they'd never find her. 943 00:34:09,215 --> 00:34:11,618 He wanted to know if I really did it, 944 00:34:14,654 --> 00:34:16,690 she showed me a picture of her kid. 945 00:34:16,723 --> 00:34:20,393 {\an8}* 946 00:34:20,427 --> 00:34:25,365 She begged me, man. 947 00:34:25,398 --> 00:34:28,301 Said he didn't wanna hear about it. 948 00:34:28,335 --> 00:34:39,179 {\an8}* 949 00:34:39,212 --> 00:34:40,180 Beautifully done. 950 00:34:40,213 --> 00:34:40,647 Thank you. 951 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,215 He's nailed. 952 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:43,016 Do the speech. 953 00:34:43,049 --> 00:34:44,084 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 954 00:34:44,117 --> 00:34:46,619 the sole witness in this case is a convicted felon 955 00:34:46,653 --> 00:34:49,756 who avoided the death penalty by entering a plea. 956 00:34:49,789 --> 00:34:51,524 Do you believe him, 957 00:34:51,558 --> 00:34:55,328 or do you believe the upstanding citizen Christopher Meeker? 958 00:34:55,362 --> 00:34:56,663 Will the DA offer him a deal? 959 00:34:56,696 --> 00:35:00,367 They said no, we need a confession. 960 00:35:01,701 --> 00:35:04,404 An arrest would give us the last chance. 961 00:35:04,437 --> 00:35:05,739 You surprise a man, 962 00:35:05,772 --> 00:35:07,240 you arrest him, 963 00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:08,508 take him away in handcuffs, 964 00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:10,243 he's nervous, disoriented. 965 00:35:10,276 --> 00:35:11,544 Tense. 966 00:35:11,578 --> 00:35:14,314 Yes, we would tell Christopher Meeker his rights, 967 00:35:14,347 --> 00:35:16,549 but somehow I felt he wouldn't call a lawyer. 968 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:18,718 It would make him look guilty. 969 00:35:18,752 --> 00:35:20,387 He had hired a man to kill his wife, 970 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:23,423 but he would make every pretense of innocence. 971 00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:26,326 And while he did I had a window of opportunity. 972 00:35:26,359 --> 00:35:30,563 Time to push him before he could think. 973 00:35:30,597 --> 00:35:32,298 I didn't kill my wife. 974 00:35:32,332 --> 00:35:34,634 You were out of town. 975 00:35:34,668 --> 00:35:37,504 You paid a man named Henry Berk to kill your wife. 976 00:35:39,806 --> 00:35:43,209 I loved my wife. 977 00:35:43,243 --> 00:35:47,514 Did you love your son? 978 00:35:47,547 --> 00:35:49,816 You took his mother away. 979 00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:52,652 That's who he is. 980 00:35:52,686 --> 00:35:56,389 He's trying to recover from the worst loss he'll ever know. 981 00:35:56,423 --> 00:36:00,260 Zack's doing just fine. 982 00:36:00,293 --> 00:36:01,795 When I first met you I wondered. 983 00:36:01,828 --> 00:36:05,231 Successful guy, has it all. 984 00:36:05,265 --> 00:36:08,568 How come he never remarried? 985 00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:11,604 Now I think I understand. 986 00:36:11,638 --> 00:36:14,374 You never did get over it. 987 00:36:14,407 --> 00:36:17,744 You never came to terms with killing your wife. 988 00:36:17,777 --> 00:36:21,414 {\an8}* 989 00:36:21,448 --> 00:36:23,717 You don't know who I am. 990 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:28,455 You couldn't visit your own father when he was dying. 991 00:36:28,488 --> 00:36:31,524 Must have been hard for you. 992 00:36:31,558 --> 00:36:35,695 Remembering when there was no food on the table. 993 00:36:35,729 --> 00:36:37,497 Kids at school had new clothes, 994 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:40,500 you didn't have any. 995 00:36:40,533 --> 00:36:43,570 {\an8}* 996 00:36:43,603 --> 00:36:44,671 Where'd you grow up? 997 00:36:44,704 --> 00:36:48,775 {\an8}* 998 00:36:48,808 --> 00:36:51,778 Nice little tract house in the Valley. 999 00:36:51,811 --> 00:36:54,914 Fake cedar shingles on the roof. 1000 00:36:54,948 --> 00:36:58,385 Your dad was a cop. 1001 00:36:58,418 --> 00:37:00,320 Your mom taught high school. 1002 00:37:00,353 --> 00:37:01,688 She was the principal. 1003 00:37:01,721 --> 00:37:03,390 Close enough. 1004 00:37:03,423 --> 00:37:06,760 No one ever said you weren't smart. 1005 00:37:06,793 --> 00:37:08,795 I can almost be there with you. 1006 00:37:08,828 --> 00:37:10,663 Your nice house, 1007 00:37:10,697 --> 00:37:13,733 standing by your pool. 1008 00:37:13,767 --> 00:37:16,803 Thinking how hard you worked to get this far. 1009 00:37:16,836 --> 00:37:18,672 Now you're gonna lose it all 1010 00:37:18,705 --> 00:37:23,309 and all you could see was the dirt yard of a trailer park. 1011 00:37:23,343 --> 00:37:26,413 Your son was 16 years old. 1012 00:37:26,446 --> 00:37:27,814 I protected my son. 1013 00:37:27,847 --> 00:37:31,651 You killed your own unborn child. 1014 00:37:33,653 --> 00:37:37,957 Now if you knew about that, if she told you about the baby, 1015 00:37:37,991 --> 00:37:40,827 would she still be alive? 1016 00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:44,497 {\an8}* 1017 00:37:44,531 --> 00:37:47,934 She... 1018 00:37:47,967 --> 00:37:51,771 She said she had to do it. 1019 00:37:51,805 --> 00:37:53,606 Why? 1020 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,642 Why? 1021 00:37:55,675 --> 00:37:56,710 It wouldn't change anything, 1022 00:37:56,743 --> 00:37:59,846 you can't change the world. 1023 00:37:59,879 --> 00:38:01,715 It would destroy us. 1024 00:38:01,748 --> 00:38:04,517 And for what? 1025 00:38:04,551 --> 00:38:07,420 ConSec would go on doing what they always did. 1026 00:38:07,454 --> 00:38:08,955 They'd be on the front pages for a day 1027 00:38:08,988 --> 00:38:10,623 and they'd go back to their lives 1028 00:38:10,657 --> 00:38:14,961 and they'd still have everything they had. 1029 00:38:14,994 --> 00:38:18,598 We would have nothing. 1030 00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:27,841 {\an8}* 1031 00:38:27,874 --> 00:38:31,478 There was no way out. 1032 00:38:31,511 --> 00:38:32,812 I couldn't let her do it. 1033 00:38:32,846 --> 00:38:37,450 {\an8}* 1034 00:38:37,484 --> 00:38:39,786 I didn't have a choice. 1035 00:38:39,819 --> 00:38:44,824 {\an8}* 1036 00:38:44,858 --> 00:38:46,493 You arrested my dad? 1037 00:38:46,526 --> 00:38:48,395 Sit down, Zack. 1038 00:38:51,798 --> 00:38:52,732 I'm so sorry. 1039 00:38:52,766 --> 00:38:55,902 Where is he? 1040 00:38:55,935 --> 00:38:58,571 You can't see him right now. 1041 00:38:58,605 --> 00:38:59,439 How could he have done it, 1042 00:38:59,472 --> 00:39:02,575 he wasn't even here. 1043 00:39:02,609 --> 00:39:06,613 We're charging him with paying someone else to have it done. 1044 00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:13,920 You knew, didn't you? 1045 00:39:13,953 --> 00:39:15,689 Knew what, Zack? 1046 00:39:20,493 --> 00:39:23,830 When you asked about my mom and dad. 1047 00:39:23,863 --> 00:39:25,432 About the last day. 1048 00:39:29,069 --> 00:39:32,539 It's funny, I... 1049 00:39:32,572 --> 00:39:36,576 I always wondered. 1050 00:39:36,609 --> 00:39:40,814 I couldn't ever really explain it. 1051 00:39:40,847 --> 00:39:45,518 I can't tell now, but... 1052 00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:48,455 I think I always knew. 1053 00:39:48,488 --> 00:39:52,492 Sometimes we know things. 1054 00:39:52,525 --> 00:39:55,495 We can't do anything about it, so we put it away. 1055 00:39:55,528 --> 00:39:57,764 So we don't have to know. 1056 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,535 Detective Beltram will take you down to County Jail 1057 00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:06,706 and you can see him when he's rebooked. 1058 00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:09,009 Come on, Zack. 1059 00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:14,514 {\an8}* 1060 00:40:14,547 --> 00:40:16,583 What else could I say to him? 1061 00:40:16,616 --> 00:40:19,853 He would be looking for peace the rest of his life. 1062 00:40:19,886 --> 00:40:21,721 We try to leave the past behind, 1063 00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:25,058 sometimes we have to just to survive. 1064 00:40:25,091 --> 00:40:27,527 But the past is never past. 1065 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,530 It's there with us all the time. 1066 00:40:30,563 --> 00:40:31,865 We can try to rewrite it, 1067 00:40:31,898 --> 00:40:33,867 it doesn't work. 1068 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,870 Either we learn to deal with the past or we don't. 1069 00:40:36,903 --> 00:40:39,839 If we don't, 1070 00:40:39,873 --> 00:40:43,510 it deals with us. 1071 00:40:44,844 --> 00:40:48,048 Henry Berk entered a plea to murder in the first degree. 1072 00:40:48,081 --> 00:40:49,816 He is currently serving a life sentence 1073 00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:52,786 at the State Penitentiary at San Quentin. 1074 00:40:52,819 --> 00:40:54,054 Christopher Meeker entered a plea 1075 00:40:54,087 --> 00:40:56,056 to murder in the first degree. 1076 00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:57,891 He is currently serving a life sentence 1077 00:40:57,924 --> 00:41:01,695 at the State Penitentiary at Folsom. 1078 00:41:06,833 --> 00:41:16,843 {\an8}* 1079 00:41:16,876 --> 00:41:36,863 {\an8}* 1080 00:41:36,896 --> 00:41:41,868 {\an8}* 1081 00:41:44,237 --> 00:41:47,107 {\an8}*